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I realize it’s not for everyone, but I’ve got a lot of pleasure from creating it.
I have two sites currently, one at mp3.com.au and one at soundclick.
http://www.mp3.com.au/mlq
http://www.soundclick.com/mlq

I prefer the mp3 site but it takes a few days to release a song and they automatically encode in wma format too without my approval. red face

Soundclick on the other hand use flash to play mp3 files. Does it sound as bad for you? I can hear the upper part of the mid frequencies cause noise now and then. mad

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More Exciting under Soundclick was fun.

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What do you mean with “fun”?
Flash sucks on the Mac, the noise generated by it destroys the songs entirely. I think I’ll ditch Soundclick. mad

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Fun to listen to.  I like the space you created with the different zones for different parts of the music.  It was fun trying to guess where the sounds would come from next.

Use FLAC + OGG and distribute them freely.  Be a pioneer and embrace these freedom-loving formats but have a MP3 version too.  Could you host your three songs here?

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Is there some way I could host them for you?  I am interested in creating Free Culture Publishers, LLC, to help distribute music and media of artists and creative people who want to spread their work freely.  Freely as in Linux.  No bullshit like Flash is necessary unless you choose to put it up on your page.  I’m up for whatever you are up for.  Just keep it your style and do what you want, not what people tell you to.  That’s why you’re the artist!

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p.s. The reason I’m interested is eventually I hope to help my youngest brother who is a drummer do this for himself.

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Bryan - 18 October 2005 03:57 AM

Is there some way I could host them for you?  I am interested in creating Free Culture Publishers, LLC, to help distribute music and media of artists and creative people who want to spread their work freely.  Freely as in Linux.  No bullshit like Flash is necessary unless you choose to put it up on your page.  I’m up for whatever you are up for.  Just keep it your style and do what you want, not what people tell you to.  That’s why you’re the artist!

Host them where? Why? Your little brother? I can’t see the connection.
The only reason I uploaded the songs at the two site was to get a little feedback, comments on it.

I know it’s experimental, exotic, but intentionally so.
Imagine a spaceship going up from Earth, you hear the thunder echoing in the two speakers. When it reaches empty space dark pads with lots of reverberation start, oscillating in stereo to illustrate the immenseness of space. Voices speaking as from aliens, asteroids crashing into each other.....

The possibilities with synthesizers is as immense as space.

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Mikael - 18 October 2005 03:45 AM

What do you mean with “fun”?
Flash sucks on the Mac, the noise generated by it destroys the songs entirely. I think I’ll ditch Soundclick. mad

But Flash itself does not generate noise. You can set .mp3 bitrate to whatever you want when you publish in Flash. The default bitrate is very low and sounds terrible but it doesn’t have to be.

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Is the computer making the noise?

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Synths are a way to tell a story, a very broad story.  But can you make us see just one version of it?  Can it be precise?

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Bryan - 18 October 2005 03:57 AM

Is there some way I could host them for you?  I am interested in creating Free Culture Publishers, LLC, to help distribute music and media of artists and creative people who want to spread their work freely.  Freely as in Linux.  No bullshit like Flash is necessary unless you choose to put it up on your page.  I’m up for whatever you are up for.  Just keep it your style and do what you want, not what people tell you to.  That’s why you’re the artist!

Host them where? Why? Your little brother? I can’t see the connection.
The only reason I uploaded the songs at the two site was to get a little feedback, comments on it.

I know it’s experimental, exotic, but intentionally so.
Imagine a spaceship going up from Earth, you hear the thunder echoing in the two speakers. When it reaches empty space dark pads with lots of reverberation start, oscillating in stereo to illustrate the immenseness of space. Voices speaking as from aliens, asteroids crashing into each other.....

The possibilities with synthesizers is as immense as space.

I’m listening to your tune.  All I said was that I’d try to help you make your tune spread.  I like it.  So let’s spread it by word of mouth.

My brother is a drummer and I want to do the same “promotion” for him as well.

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xphiler - 18 October 2005 03:20 PM

But Flash itself does not generate noise. You can set .mp3 bitrate to whatever you want when you publish in Flash. The default bitrate is very low and sounds terrible but it doesn’t have to be.

I believe you are right but I don’t have the option to choose a faster bit-rate, that costs money unfortunately. sad

Go to http://www.kraftwerk.com , they use flash to present their work.
Listen to a few of the short tunes.
I think it sounds a little better but not much.

Yes, but you’re right it’s not as good as it could be. That would be the site designer’s choice. I don’t like compressed music of any kind. Many site designers choose compression in Flash to be so great that the result is just plain horrible. Flash can play .mp3 at a much higher bitrate though. I think most designers choose to have the tune load quickly at the expense of quality.

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Bryan - 19 October 2005 01:12 AM

Is the computer making the noise?

Probably not. I still think flash should be avoided to present music.

ynths are a way to tell a story, a very broad story.  But can you make us see just one version of it?  Can it be precise?

Jonn Serrie is an other artist I enjoy listening to.
He is here: http://www.vipinfo.com/jonn/
You can listen to a little of his music here: http://starchronicles.com/

His themes are space and aviation.
Listen to his music, close your eyes and imagine yourself somewhere in space.

This type of music is entirely for your mind not heart or feet (not dance music, i.o.w.).

I’m listening to your tune.  All I said was that I’d try to help you make your tune spread.  I like it.  So let’s spread it by word of mouth.

My brother is a drummer and I want to do the same “promotion” for him as well.

Let me think about it. Thanks for the generous offering.

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As a general rule, if Apple hasn’t used it yet and you don’t believe they would ideally, don’t invest too heavily in the technology.

Exception: almost anything open source.

See any Flash on Apple’s iTMS?  Kinda, they have banner ads.  But the music is still in AAC and seperately streamed in a different interface (iTunes).

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Mikael - 20 October 2005 07:25 AM
Bryan - 19 October 2005 01:12 AM

Is the computer making the noise?

Probably not. I still think flash should be avoided to present music.

ynths are a way to tell a story, a very broad story.  But can you make us see just one version of it?  Can it be precise?

Jonn Serrie is an other artist I enjoy listening to.
He is here: http://www.vipinfo.com/jonn/
You can listen to a little of his music here: http://starchronicles.com/

His themes are space and aviation.
Listen to his music, close your eyes and imagine yourself somewhere in space.

This type of music is entirely for your mind not heart or feet (not dance music, i.o.w.).

I’m listening to your tune.  All I said was that I’d try to help you make your tune spread.  I like it.  So let’s spread it by word of mouth.

My brother is a drummer and I want to do the same “promotion” for him as well.

Let me think about it. Thanks for the generous offering.

Like Robert Miles’s 23am which Raffi showed me?

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Bryan - 20 October 2005 11:46 PM

Like Robert Miles’s 23am which Raffi showed me?

I have one of his singles, “Children”, and think it’s more typical for his style of music: Dance and entertainment for the masses.

I’ve listened to “23 am” too and it’s still entertaining and his use of synthesizers and use of electronic rhythms is easy to listen too, but does not belong to the same world of artists as the ones I mentioned.

“23 am” contains all the standard sounds which can be expected to be available in the factory presets of any commercially available synthesizer, why I think that Mr. Miles is not a synthesizer wizard - just another artist trying to earn a buck or two.

Just my 2¢.

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Bryan - 20 October 2005 11:44 PM

See any Flash on Apple’s iTMS?  Kinda, they have banner ads.  But the music is still in AAC and seperately streamed in a different interface (iTunes).

I don’t think it’s Flash.

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I have to listen that Robert Miles CD with an open mind and then check out other artists as well.

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Mikael - 18 October 2005 03:45 AM

What do you mean with “fun”?
Flash sucks on the Mac, the noise generated by it destroys the songs entirely. I think I’ll ditch Soundclick. mad

But Flash itself does not generate noise. You can set .mp3 bitrate to whatever you want when you publish in Flash. The default bitrate is very low and sounds terrible but it doesn’t have to be.

I finally found out what was causing the problem.
It’s the Audio out format, which should be 44100 Hz and nothing else for Flash to sound the best.

I use Audacity because it’s free and because it’s a great tool to give my music that final touch (e.g. normalizing and amplification), it’s great for removing the noise in the music I’ve sampled from my old tapes.

It insists on setting the Audio out format to 96000 Hz though and that’s worse, Flash will not play at all then.

The solution is to start /Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup.app and change that Audio out format to 44100 Hz.
An even simpler way is to start Garageband which apparently does the same thing.

Everything else will continue to play even at 96000 Hz, it’s only Flash which stops working. Crappy Flash, and Audacity is badly designed for OS X. I’ll continue to use Audacity though because it’s a great tool.

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