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I’m in the market for a LCD screen for an ADC computer.  It’s between:

1) 20” Classic Apple Cinema Display Used w/ no warranty $550
2) 20” Classic Apple Cinema Display w/ 1 year warranty $949
3) 20” Apple Cinema Display w/ ADC converter $699 [edu] + 100 = $799
4) 20” HP w/ DVI so another ADC converter $660+100
5) 23” Apple Cinema Display w/ ADC converter $1,099 [edu] + 100 = $1199
...and so on.

or, an iMac:
6) 20” iMac G5 $1900

So if I go with the iMac, I get to keep my quiet Cube and do something fun with it.  Say, Linux writing box?  I wish the iMac had video inputs.  Thoughts?

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If you were to spend that much, you might as well go for the iMac. I use one at work everyday and believe me, the new 20-incher is an awesome machine. The 17” one is great too.

The 20” iMac edu price, btw, is $1599.

And keep the Cube!

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I like this Cube enough to keep it either way.  By the way, the $1900 quote is for the iMac w/ 1.25gb RAM and a warranty, and I think that’s it. Thanks Nick.

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Dell display.  20 inches for $400-450 or 24 inches for $750.

Wait until January to by your Mac because then there could be a few Intel models and you should get the new iLife for free.

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I’d hold off on buying the Intel models for a year, otherwise you will have to deal with a lot of compatibility issues that would not be solved immediately.  I’d probably get the iMac now.

What if Apple does an XBOX 360?

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What do you mean?  From what has been said the Xbox 360 problems stem from one particular power brick that ships with some systems.  Apparently, the cord has some kind of extra residue on it and wiping it off solves most problems.  Other people have said some of the problems are software related but apparently those were all patched quickly.

None of that should have slipped past Q&A;though.

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Kuaidang - 30 November 2005 02:35 PM

What do you mean?  From what has been said the Xbox 360 problems stem from one particular power brick that ships with some systems.  Apparently, the cord has some kind of extra residue on it and wiping it off solves most problems.  Other people have said some of the problems are software related but apparently those were all patched quickly.

None of that should have slipped past Q&A;though.

I think it’s bogus that MS allowed that sort of thing to happen, to people who spent around $400-500 on a buggy system.  It was also foolish to let it happen too, considering how much MS is having an eye kept on it these days.  Besides, this kind of thing should never happen on a console, that’s one of the advantages a console should have over a computer, gaming that is worry free from crashes.

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Kuaidang - 30 November 2005 02:35 PM

What do you mean?  From what has been said the Xbox 360 problems stem from one particular power brick that ships with some systems.  Apparently, the cord has some kind of extra residue on it and wiping it off solves most problems.  Other people have said some of the problems are software related but apparently those were all patched quickly.

None of that should have slipped past Q&A;though.

I think it’s bogus that MS allowed that sort of thing to happen, to people who spent around $400-500 on a buggy system.  It was also foolish to let it happen too, considering how much MS is having an eye kept on it these days.  Besides, this kind of thing should never happen on a console, that’s one of the advantages a console should have over a computer, gaming that is worry free from crashes.

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I think it’s a strange phenomenon, Microsoft seems to be able to treat their customers in any way they like, the customers come back anyway as if there is a mass-blindness causing this highly irrational behavior. wtf

It seems to come nothing but buggy systems from them and the only rational reaction is to abandon their products. Buy a Playstation instead, I’d recommend.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7052.cfm

Microsoft confirms Xbox 360 problems
24 November 2005 2:33 by Dela

A day after the North American launch of the first of a new generation of consoles, the Xbox 360, Microsoft has confirmed that some gamers are experiencing nasty problems already. “We have received a few isolated reports of consoles not working as expected,” Microsoft spokeswoman Molly O’Donnell told Reuters. A lot of Xbox 360 sites, including 360Updates, were filled with messages about strange crashes and error codes that users were getting. In some cases, the console would crash after less than 20 minutes of use.

While it is expected that problems like this would arise, you have to understand why many of the new owners of this console are frustrated. If you read around online, even just in our Xbox 360 General discussion forum, you will read about how people were disappointed after waiting for hours in the cold to buy one just to find out they weren’t going to get one. Now imagine waiting for hours in the cold, queuing for your turn and then finally getting one only to take it home and watch it crash within minutes.

Most of the reports Microsoft is receiving details the console crashing during normal usage, or while using the Xbox live service. However, the company is still delighted with the launch and claims there is only a small fraction of complaints - but did not release any figures. “With any launch of this magnitude, you’re bound to see something happening,” O’Donnell said.

So what do you do when you experience problems with an Xbox 360? According to O’Donnell, the best thing to do is call 1-800-4MY-XBOX for trouble shooting. If the problem cant be solved, Microsoft will repair of replace the console. Meanwhile, if you have any “horror stories” concerning your first encounter with an Xbox 360, or better yet, any pictures of videos you made of an Xbox doing something it shouldn’t, post them on this thread, or create a thread on our Xbox 360 General discussion forum.

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30” HD Display w/ ADC convert!!

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I’m not sure if the cube’s GPU can drive the 30"… question

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Obviously, you need a dual-link DVI port for the 30” display.  And I don’t think any card that has one can go in the Cube.

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Put the iMac (intel) on the shopping list.  Let’s first figure out how much hotter or cooler it runs when pushed hard.  I intend to abuse the virtual daylights out of my next system.

Re: my original point.  The Front Row iMacs still don’t do video-in unless you use a FW/USB adaptor.  I do like the DVI port, except I don’t get why it had to be a mini-DVI port.  Does the full DVI port really look that un-pleasing or take up more internal room?  I’m not sure the $20+ adapter should be necessary.

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Bryan - 14 January 2006 05:51 AM

Put the iMac (intel) on the shopping list.  Let’s first figure out how much hotter or cooler it runs when pushed hard.  I intend to abuse the virtual daylights out of my next system.

Re: my original point.  The Front Row iMacs still don’t do video-in unless you use a FW/USB adaptor.  I do like the DVI port, except I don’t get why it had to be a mini-DVI port.  Does the full DVI port really look that un-pleasing or take up more internal room?  I’m not sure the $20+ adapter should be necessary.

At some point I said that Apple switching to Intel would give us an idea as to the quality of the systems they make relative to x86.  I think the new iMac pretty much shows us that Apple’s products are sold at competitive prices.  Looking at the specs I could swear Apple is selling at a loss or getting a really good deal on these Core Dous.

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At some point I said that Apple switching to Intel would give us an idea as to the quality of the systems they make relative to x86.  I think the new iMac pretty much shows us that Apple’s products are sold at competitive prices.  Looking at the specs I could swear Apple is selling at a loss or getting a really good deal on these Core Dous.

Good deal or not they are likely quite profitable.  Apple’s margins typically are between 20-40%+ and are some of the best of the computer makers.  Dell is surely more efficient.  Apple is able to charge more than others.  Yet, somehow we believe that they are giving us a great value.  It’s phenomenal!

e.g. the nano 2gb.  http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/09/22/material_cost_of_ipod_nano_estimated_around_/

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Right now I’m trying to buy a Cube off eBay with no warranty and potentially pirated software (the software is worth more than the computer). 

Unfortunately I bought a system from them previously.  In another auction, I realized the deal was too good to be true because I called up the seller and he offered to copy me anything I wanted.  He clearly had been doing this often.

“Microsoft Office 2001 & 2004 plus Thousands of dollars worth of software. (call for software titles)”

user: Hollywoodbig (Florida)
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ahayes - 14 January 2006 11:01 AM

Apple is able to charge more than others.  Yet, somehow we believe that they are giving us a great value.  It’s phenomenal!

I don’t think that Apple has ever presented themselves as providing good value or as being a discount retailer. Quite the reverse I think. I think they want to position themselves as a dependable quality vendor.

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I agree with xphiler that Apple is a quality brand name like BMW.  Sony is one too IMO as far as TV’s.

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