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Ordering computer parts online sucks [UPDATED]
It is my belief that the burden of returning the drive should be on the company who sold it.
Okay, this is the second time something like this has happened, and it’s not funny anymore.
The first time it went like this: I bought a half-gigabyte of Rosewill brand RAM on Newegg.com. It came in a reasonable amount of time, but when I installed it into my iMac, it caused problems. I returned it, and Newegg sent me another stick (of the same kind, of course) that works just fine. Naturally, I had to pay the shipping charges to send the RAM back (as well as the conventional shipping charge to order it in the first place, usually not very much), which cost me a lot more than shipping here cost, and almost as much as the RAM itself. Okay, isolated incident, right?

Well yeah, meaning this next issue is just another in a (hopefully recessed) string of bad luck. I finally decided that my iMac’s 80 GB of disk space was not enough, so after reading up I decided to buy a 250 GB Hitachi drive. I searched around before choosing PC Parts Unlimited. I ordered the drive, and it arrived a few days before the piece of hardware I needed to transfer my data, a USB2-to-SATA adapter from TMG Computers. (The manual for said adapter, by the way, is completely written in Engrish… but that’s for another entry.) Once the adapter arrived, I hooked everything up and — nothing. The drive sat there and stared at me, making a buzzing-beeping noise. It didn’t mount, it didn’t spin up, it didn’t even register in Disk Utility: it was dead on arrival. Time to return.
This morning I took the drive to the UPS store to send it back to Ohio. The price for packaging, shipping and making a photocopy of my invoice came out to $27. Now that might not seem like a lot, but the drive only cost $89 in the first place, including $6 S/H. So on the one hand, I was basically getting ripped off on shipping, and on another hand I was getting ripped off because I had to ship the drive back out of my own pocket. See, if this had not been the correct drive I had meant to order, or if it had the wrong interface, or if anything like that, it would not have been a major problem. But since this was the drive I wanted, and it simply didn’t work, I’m rather peeved at having to pay for shipping it back (even though the invoice says I am responsible for as much). It is my belief that the burden of returning the drive should be on the company who sold it, because it is their responsibility to ship a working product, and they should treat their customers with some respect by honoring that.
In any case, I sent them an email explaining my opinion about the situation, and I am awaiting their reply. Their reception will determine whether they have kept or lost my business.
[UPDATE] Here is the text of the email I sent them:
Hello,
I recently purchased a 250 GB hard drive from you (sales order 16XXX). When I tried to use it, the drive did not work (RMA 121XXX), so this morning I had it packaged up to be shipped back to you to be exchanged. It cost me $27.32 to have the drive packaged and shipped. Despite the clause about return shipping charges, I want this amount refunded to me, by you, because you sent me a product that did not work. If I am going to send you money, I expect you to send me a product that functions correctly, which did not happen (and yes, I am aware that these things happen… but you should consider treating your customers with a little courtesy).
If you agree to this, I will strongly consider your store for my future purchasing needs. If you do not, you will have lost my business. It is simply unbelievable that I should have to pay almost 5 times the original shipping cost to return an item that didn’t work.
I can provide a copy of the shipping receipt if needed.
- Joseph Bermann
And their reply:
Dear Joseph, your offer is not acceptable. We charge you $6.00 for shipping and reimburse you $6.00 for shipping back. Plus we didn’t ship you a bad hard drive, this hard drive had past our quality test. It is possible that it became bad but is not the fact yet until we test here. In many cases hard drives are getting damaged by a hit shock during shipment or during installation, it is not necessarily our fault.
Anybody know a way I can avoid egregious shipping charges on faulty computer merchandise?
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Well, it may make sense to shop locally in the future. A 250Gig harddrive can be had for under $100 at your local BestBuy or CircuitCity or Staples, with the appropriate rebates.
Wow. I’ve always had really good fortune with buying stuff online, even back in my PC days. I’ve not heard anything good or bad about Rosewill RAM, but then again, I’ve always stuck with OWC for RAM. The disk drive though, is pathetic. I agree that someone (company or manufacturer) should pay if the product is defective.
Yeah, still no response back from them, too. And it appears I haven’t received a UPS tracking number for the shipped package, or I can’t find it, or something. So I can’t tell if it’s on its way or anything.
Anybody else think that one should not be billed for shipping a package until it has been successfully received?
I feel your pain. I ordered a laptop online and received the wrong one. After e-mailing the firm they accepted to reimburse me for the shipping cost. I sent the laptop back and waited another 10 days for the right one to arrive. When it did it had some dead pixels on the display so I emailed the guys again. They said it’s not their fault. It might have been damaged during shipment. It was closed the whole time and wrapped in protective cases. How could it had damaged?
Mary-anne: Good question, especially considering that dead pixels are a manufacturing defect. If your laptop screen was damaged in transit, you’d have a larger, more general type of problem, like spiderwebbing or blotchiness. I recommend you keep demanding they replace it again, since they essentially sent you a bad product.
Thank you, Arden, for your fast response. You are right. I have been e-mailing them back and forth for a while now. They just don’t want to replace the laptop. I haven’t used it since I saw the dead pixels. I need some definitions for spiderwebbing and blotchiness. I’m not sure I know exactly what the terms refer to. Thanks again!
Mary-Anne: Let’s see how many links I can post before the spam filter catches me…
Here’s an example of a blotchy screen, and here’s one of spiderwebbing. Basically, they are two types of screen breakage that are entirely possible in transit and not caused by manufacturers’ defects. You can also look on Wikipedia for information on stuck and dead pixels, what the differences are, and some things you may be able to do about it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to clear things up for me. I’m quite sure I’ll be needing this information pretty soon. I plan to write a final mail to the firm and then take legal action. If any of you think this is stupid please, please let me know.
To be frank. I’d always suggest buying up from your nearest store than prodding online for computer related hardware. Venture online only if the price difference is that big.
I’ve ordered new hard drives before which have caused my computer to crash to a blue screen. I sent it back and explained it must not be compatible with my computers or there is a malfunction and was simply told it was my fault. After several strenuous e-mails I managed to get a refund but it really shouldn’t be that hard for sellers and customers to understand each other fairly when it comes to IT difficulties.
It also shouldn’t be that difficult to understand that these are very sensitive mechanical devices, and often things go wrong. The customer is expecting a certain level of quality from both the manufacturer and the supplier, and if both aren’t delivering at that level or higher, then there is a problem and one of them need to take care of it. It’s sometimes quite ridiculous the crap you have to go through to get treated with a modicum or two of respect.









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Ew! A Death Star! (Desk Star)
(Hitachi took over IBM’s Death Stars).
And yeah, company should be responsible for bad drives!
Might have been better to do an RMA to Hitachi instead. Even tho I haven’t dealt with Hitachi myself - I’ve had no problems sending a dead drive to other manufacturers, and they always covered shipping.