I wish I could say the same thing about QuickTime on PCs. Oh wait, it’s QuickTime’s fault in that case, right? Ha!

That’s pretty sad.

Yeah, you should email Microsoft and the creators of Flip4Mac and tell them to optimize better.  Hell, we all should.

That Mac Pro is priced really well. MacWorld has a comparison between it and a comparable Dell and the Dell ends up being about $1,000 more.

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/features/ma cproprice/index.php

Isn’t the Mac Pro suppose to be a high end system?

And Quicktime, URGH! Stay away!

So, two Xeon 4 CPUs is what it takes to accomplish the rendering of WMVHD?

You know when the OP posted that, I had to laugh!

:-D

I wish I could say the same thing about QuickTime on PCs. Oh wait, it’s QuickTime’s fault in that case, right? Ha!

I love how you just created a completely ficticous arguement and crusaded against it.  I didn’t even mention whos fault it was.

Yeah, you should email Microsoft and the creators of Flip4Mac and tell them to optimize better.  Hell, we all should.

Optimize what?  WMP for Mac?  Not gonna happen… ever. Obviously, WMP for Mac was a half-hearted effort.
Windows Media codecs aren’t the problem.  Apple doesn’t really do much as far in terms of helping developers hardware accelerated video decoding.  That’s why HD-DVD and Blu-Ray video don’t even have a chance on OS X until Apple makes some major changes.
So WM and VC-1 simply won’t ever play as good on the Mac as it does on Windows.  In fact, H.264, Real, VPx, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, Divx, etc. play better on Windows too (as long as you’re not using QT player)

DVD decoding sucked (and still sucks) on the Mac for years, TV output from the Mac sucks, surround sound decoding sucked etc…

Apple will have to do something about this and provide a protected video/audio path (which is why MS says most WM DRM won’t be ported to Mac) in order to get HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies… So have faith.

As always, Microsoft is never the problem. Apple is always the problem.

Kuaidang, this is why you are wrong so often.

Leopard will not have real 64 bit support, right? Apple will be the only one selling TV shows, right? CoreImage will not be 16 (or 32) bit, right? IBM didn’t have a yield problem, right?

It’s always Apple’s fault. It’s never Microsoft’s fault. This is your mindset and is why you immediately proclaimed that Office had nothing to do with the anti-trust case against Microsoft.

Apple can’t ever do (insert anything).

In fact, H.264, Real, VPx, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, Divx, etc. play better on Windows too (as long as you’re not using QT player)

Not in my experience. Not even close. I create that stuff and have to author it to play on corporate Windows PCs. I have to make the data rate lower for the videos to play well on PCs. This is the same reason all of the WMV movie trailers I see are at a lower data rate than QT movie trailers, which is why the QT movie trailers always look better.

And you are lying out of your ass again when you claim the codecs have nothing to do with it because I know that you know different versions of the same codec perform differently on the same platform. This is precisely why you have bashed Apple’s H.264 and prefer using a different H.264.

So once again you prove you have no credibility.

DVD decoding sucked (and still sucks) on the Mac for years

Why?

TV output from the Mac sucks

Why?

surround sound decoding sucked

Sucked, as in it doesn’t anymore? OK. So?

How can a company that takes so much pride in their “secured” software, not make good software on other platforms?

How is it?  I see a group that’s just unwilling to open up and share.  Quicktime sucked and still do.  What is the percentage of people nowadays using VLC or media player comapred to QT?  Probably the same ratio with OS users (and only because movie trailers are usually only in QT - edited. now no more).

What is the percentage of people nowadays using VLC or media player comapred to QT?  Probably the same ratio with OS users (and only because movie trailers are usually only in QT - edited. now no more).

Why don’t you show us what that percentage is.

I’m guessing it’s higher than 2% since millions and millions of iTunes customers are out there with QuickTime.

Why should I? 

I don’t care for QT and neither do billions and billions of users out there with PCs.

I’m guessing it’s higher than 2% since millions and millions of iTunes customers are out there with QuickTime.

But do they actually use quicktime as a media player or is it just something hanging off the end of iTunes to them?

They are probably using WiMP to get their trailers, if it isn’t available in that format they just go to another website, or they do it the old fashion way, when they see the commercials or BS previews at the begining of DVDs that are locked so you can’t go to the menu or fast forward.

But do they actually use quicktime as a media player or is it just something hanging off the end of iTunes to them?

My opinion is that most people don’t think of the player but just go to sites and then see something they want to play and then try to play it. If they don’t have the player, some go get the player but probably more just try clicking on the other player available and maybe even go to a different site.

iTunes customers already have the QT player, so the first scenario where they don’t have the player doesn’t happen to them.

iTunes customers can view trailers right in iTunes and the “Official Movie Site” button in iTunes for a particular movie takes them to a Web site that uses QuickTime.

informer’s argument is he thinks only the Mac users use QuickTime. He states that the QT market share is the same as the Mac market share, which is around 2% worldwide, last I checked.

My point is I think there are a lot of Windows users out there using QuickTime. I’m not saying 100% of iTunes customers are choosing QT as their preferred player, but I think there are many who do because of their iTunes experience.

Doing a simple search in Google reveals that QuickTime always had over 2% market share in the media players, and always higher than VLC, which doesn’t even make the lists published. It’s always WMP, Real, QT followed by Other.

Why should I?

To provide any evidence at all that your statements are true?